Save for Web mystery

[Paul C]

I have a file whose document size is set to 452px x 615px. I placed a PS background in it that is that exact same size and then did some typesetting. When I Save for Web, the image size tab tells me it is 452 x 616 (one pixel taller) and there is a very narrow almost white strip on top and bottom. It looks like it is aliasing the photo to get the extra 1px. There is nothing near the top or bottom except the background PS image.
Any ideas?
peace

[GuyB]

Paul,

I don't know what's happening but I replicated (created a 452px x 615px image in Photoshop at 72ppi; created a same size file in Illustrator; placed the .psd in the .ai file; did some typesetting and saved for web) and the image size tab gave me the exact size : 452 x 615.
The only thing I could think off, is that your placed .psd file could be 1px outside the limit of your .ai file.

[The Repro Kid]

Paul, you originally posted this in the InDesign forum. I went to try out the problem like GuyB did, but I can't figure out to put InDesign into pixels. It will only give me printing increments like inches, millimeters, ciceros, etc.

Is it possible to set-up InDesign as pixels, or is there a detail I'm missing in your post?

[Paul C]

Thanks, Guy but that wasn't it. Really strange things are happening. If I place a layered .psd in Illustrator CS2 it demonstrates this behaviour but if I flatten the same file, save as a .psd and place that, it works just fine.
The workaround, if anyone ever needs it, is to click Clip to Artboard in the Image Size tab and then apply.
Live and learn (hopefully)…
Repro - Due to my brilliance at 7:00am I posted in the wrong forum. I am doing this in Illustrator. But I just noticed something when I was trying to work this out. In Illustrator when I changed the measurement to points, it read exactly the same as the pixel dimensions. Any thoughts on that?
peace

[The Repro Kid]

...I changed the measurement to points, it read exactly the same as the pixel dimensions. Any thoughts on that?
peace

Weell, 72 (digital) type points to an inch and 72 pixels per inch web display...

I think I'm seeing a pattern.

:D

Coffee break time!

[Paul C]

Me too…

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/pbc1313/temp/illustartor-op-art-2.gif

peace

[Paul C]

It's all mute because when I completed the project and Saved for Web, the fonts got completely pixelated. This didn't happen yesterday, so as usual I am at a loss. I had to recreate it in PS. The reason I moved to Illustrator in the first place is there is so much text in this particular piece that it takes years to set in PS. So I guess I have to set it in ILL and then transfer it to PS to get it right.
If anyone out there has a better idea, believe me I'm ready to try it. I am not a web designer so all this is pretty new to me…
peace

[The Repro Kid]

Don't sweat it! Make your art big in Illustrator, bring it into photoshop big, and at 300 dpi. Do your artwork, and then save. Then, before you go to save to web, size the original down to 72 dpi and then save to web. All web art looks better if you make it oversize and then reduce it to 72 dpi before saving for web. Make sure to keep all your original large art for revisions.

[Paul C]

Nice tip, Repro. It's a rasterized background with a hell of a lot of text. The background started at 300ppi at a much larger physical size. So is this step beneficial in this case? If so, I'm a Bicubic Sharper fan for downresing. How about you? Also, would you just bring in the text from Illustrator?
thanks

[wardo]

Here's another workaround for this annoying problem:
• If you have more than one layer, merge copies of the layers into a single layer.
• Lock or hide the original layer(s) to protect them.
• Select 'Document Setup' and set the 'Artboard' to the overall size of your artwork.
• Reposition artwork, if necessary.
• Select all artwork, select 'Object > Rasterize...', then:
- Set 'Resolution' to 'Screen'.
- Set 'Anti-Aliasing' to 'Art Optimized' or 'Type Optimized'.
- Click 'OK'.
• Select 'Save for Web', then:
- In the 'Image Size' options, uncheck 'Anti-Alias'.
- Check 'Clip to Artboard'.
- Click 'Save", etc.