3D vector spheres

[konqee]

I am new to this Illustrator lark and wondered if anybody had any tips (or links) for creating a convincing 3D sphere, and Cylinder.
Any tips will be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Konqee

[scottie]

http://www.layersmagazine.com/design/il-index.php

This is a Photoshop how to...give it a read, it can be done in AI using vector tools and radial gradients.

http://www.graphics.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=196

All of this was done in AI and everything is vector except the fairy on the pin.

[konqee]

Hi there, thanks for your reply.
I managed to find another way within the adobe website. Quite well hidden actually.
This is a work in progress, i'm almost complete!
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h298/konqee/3Dmodel.jpg


this is the link:
http://studio.adobe.com/us/tips/tip.jsp?p=1&xml=illcs2mr3d&id=101666

Cheers

[scottie]

My toys drawing was done in AIv8. It is all 2D. No 3D effect were used. I find the 3D effects in CS2 cumbersome. I don't think they are really 3D more like AutoCAD v4 2 1/2D. I just wanted to show you what can be done using 2D vector art. Chin Chin

[AdobeAce]

Hi Scottie,

My next Illustrator tutorial on Layers, is actually about 3D Rotatate. It should be up next week sometime.

It's amazing what you can do with "2 1/2D" in a matter of seconds. And you don't have to be an engineer to figure it out. Sure it has some drawbacks, but you CAN get some amazing results with very little work.

Ace

[AdobeAce]

Oh by the way --
konqee, nice job!
Ace

:D

[GuyB]

Hi Ace,

Can't wait for your next tutorial : I'm all excited about rotatating :D

[AdobeAce]

Hi Guy,

I think both of my upcoming tutorials are my best yet, so I'm really excited about them. Creating the art for 3D Rotate tutorial was so fast and easy that the final result are unbelievable.

Ace

[Paul C]

Look like fun AdobeAce can't wait - I heard it was a very good year :)

peace

[GuyB]

Indeed, it looks like a good year for Ace but I keep a serious doubt about a New Jersey Beaujolais ! ;)

But... what about that rotatating thing again ? Is it faster than rotating ? Is it a noise made while rotating ? :)

[The Repro Kid]

Ace, I think its possible to show thru the walls with the 3D effects in Illustrator, this will actually give you a transparent looking bottle, maybe I'll poke around and look for that setting again, I remember using it once And was really surprised.

[Paul C]

Are you sure that AdobeAce would want us to know he's drunk 3/4 of the bottle while he was doing this? :rolleyes:

And you're right GuyB about a New Jersey Beaujolais - Now I'm kind of scared ;)

peace

[AdobeAce]

Are you sure that AdobeAce would want us to know he's drunk 3/4 of the bottle while he was doing this? :rolleyes:

And you're right GuyB about a New Jersey Beaujolais - Now I'm kind of scared ;)

peace

Hi All,

Enough of the New Jersey jokes. We get it from New Yorkers all the time, now Califorians and Canadians? What's up with that?

Oh, and there's a good reason the bottle is horizontal with nothing coming out. But 3/4 of a bottle in 1/2 an hour? Nah.

The "tata" thing -- when I had the bottle render at 256 steps, I said "tata" to the mapped label. Still can't figure that one out. It was actually a Tytypo! :D

Happy weekend!

Ace

[Paul C]

Hey - After all the jokes I heard on The Tonight Show I heard growing up, when I finally went there I was surprised to see how beautiful New Jersey was. You should be glad about the stereotyping, though. I wish California had that reputation! Maybe there'd be a few less crazy folks 'round these parts…

You did that in 1/2 an hour? Mighty impressive. Looking forward to the tutorial.

Have a great weekend yourself Ace.

peace

[AdobeAce]

Hi Paul,

We've done a great job of hiding the beauty of NJ by naming it "The Garden State." Most call it "The Turnpike State." And boast about which Exit they live at, instead of which town.

By the way, I live off Exit 9.

Happy Weekend!

Ace

:D

[scottie]

For some reasone 3D is giving me trouble today.

[scottie]

Hi Ace,

Can't wait for your next tutorial : I'm all excited about rotatating :D
Okay, I looked at your tutorial on creating the bottle, but...... you don't mention how to make the 3d gold foil effect. Come on give it up.... I know I'm being lazy.

[AdobeAce]

Hi scottie,

I was hoping no one would notice.

In trying to keep this tutorial short, I didn't include the "gold foil." But it was too late to take it out of my tutorial.

I just drew a gold rectangle (C=5%, M=15%, Y=100% K=0%). Dragged it to the Symbols palette to make it into a Symbol. I selected the bottle. In the Appearance palette, I double-clicked on the 3D-Revolve Effect Listing. Clicked on Map Art. Found the two appropriate surfaces, and applied my Gold Band Symbol to those surfaces. Clicked OK and OK to apply.

Done!

Ace

[scottie]

Hi scottie,


I just drew a gold rectangle (C=5%, M=15%, Y=100% K=0%). Dragged it to the Symbols palette to make it into a Symbol.
Ace

Very tricky. Your methode works great!
But I tried this to no avail... I drew the bottle profile and then used the sissors tool to break a short section and changed the color to gold. I then used the join command to put the profile back together. But, when I rotated this resultant profile everything above the gold area including the gold rendered about half the diameter of the lower botttle profile. Your way is much simple but I still wonder why the green, gold, green profile rendered at different diameters? Thanks for the fast response.

[The Repro Kid]

You're over-thinking the problem. Any shape can have symbols applied directly to the shape. You should be able to click on a little arrow at the bottom of the Map Art dialog box that scrolls through the various planes/surfaces/faces of the shape. Apply the symbol to the appropriate surface and scale and or rotate as necessary.

All this can be found in abobe's own tutorials that come with the Disks.

The only reason to apply the symbol to its own label shape would be if you wanted to suggest a thickness to the paper label. But that too would probably be better suggested by adding a slight notch to your bottle profile.

But Scottie, if you enjoy 3D art so much you should do yourself a favor and buy Strata 3D CX. It is very compatible with Illustrator and Photoshop and is far more gratifying for your 3D Fix.

The shot below shows a bottle with label I did in strata. Believe it or not it is not that much more difficult for someone such as yourself with some Isometric drawing experience than doing the same thing in Illustrator, only it looks 150,000% better.

[AdobeAce]

I drew the bottle profile and then used the sissors tool to break a short section and changed the color to gold. I then used the join command to put the profile back together. But, when I rotated this resultant profile everything above the gold area including the gold rendered about half the diameter of the lower botttle profile.

Hi Scottie,

As soon as you use the scissors tool all kinds of wierd stuff starts happening. Every part of the profile cut away from the original becomes a separate profile revoling in its own universe unrelated to the original — A major disadvantage of 3D Revolve!

That's one reason the 3D apps that Repro uses are superior.

Considering it's part of Illustrator (which is not a true 3D program), 3D Revolve is quite good.

Ace

:D

[The Repro Kid]

Ace, I took a look at the tutorial and adding a stroke to the profile to create the bottle thickness is a nice time saver, I usually draw out the bottle thickness by hand.

But I would probably use, Path-Outline Stroke, rather than Flatten Transparency, to outline the stroke, although there probably is no real difference between the two.

But there is a difference between the inside and outside surface of a bottle so I would be tempted to take the bumps out of the inside surface just to be fussy.

But another easy way to do the gold band would just be to draw the profile of the band along side the profile of the bottle and revolve both at the same time.

[AdobeAce]

Hi Repro,

I started with Outline Stroke but I got some strange intersecting of Paths. Really wierd! So I tried Flatten Transparency and it did a much better job.

Adding an extra path for the 3D Revolve and Grouping works nicely. Cutting a Path after Effect has been applied leads to nothing but trouble.

I actually did Outlined Stroke in order to change the inside of the bottle (get rid of the bumps) but because of limits on the number of words I can use, I had to keep cutting back on what steps I could and couldn't get into.

Ace

:D

[The Repro Kid]

Yes, writers have word limits, I wasn't intentionally critiquing your tut.

But I am going to take back my comment on Path-Outline Stroke vs Flatten Transparency not being different.

I went back and tried both ways just out of curiosity and using Flatten Transparency I got the extra shapes that needed to be cleared with the transform palette but with Outline Stroke I got a clean shape that didn't need any extra clean-up.

[Paul C]

By the way - can someone post the link to this mysterious tutorial? I'd love to take a look and haven't been able to find it…

Thanks in advance

peace

[AdobeAce]

Hi Paul,

There's a link on the Layers homepage, but it's near the bottom now. As they add new tutorials at the top, the older ones move further down the page.

Here's a direct link – http://www.layersmagazine.com/design/3d-bottle.php

Ace

:D

[Paul C]

Thanks Ace…

peace