Adobe Illustrator CS2

[Agirona]

I would like to know if anyone knows how to add bullet points to an AICS2 document?

Thanks.

[scottie]

If you have a MAC it's very simple. Of course you will need a font that has bullets.
Let's use Helvetica, regular. Using the text tool click a text imput point. Now press option-asteric (above the 8 key) don't press the shift key. enter a space or setup tabs and now enter the text you would like to be bulleted.
• Bullet 1
• Bullet 2® ™ é ó 120ºC

[Agirona]

Thanks for the information but I don't use a Mac. I use Windows environment. However, I hope to invest in a Mac with in the next six months. If anyone knows how to put a bullet point in Illustrator CS2 (windows environment) I would really appreciate the help.

Thanks you Scottie. :)

[The Repro Kid]

If you have a MAC it's very simple. Of course you will need a font that has bullets.
Let's use Helvetica, regular. Using the text tool click a text imput point. Now press option-asteric (above the 8 key) don't press the shift key. enter a space or setup tabs and now enter the text you would like to be bulleted.
• Bullet 1
• Bullet 2® ™ é ó 120ºC

Actually Scottie, it's 120°C, not 120ºC, as you typed. Option-Shit-8 is a degree symbol. Option-0 is some kind of math number symbol.

But what Agirona really needs to know is where she can download a character-choosing utility she can run on her PC. Then she look up anything.

Sorry Agirona, I don't know of any PC character-choosing utilities but someone here might, there's lots of PC users here.

[scottie]

I use option-0 (zero) because at the point size I usually work at 5-6 pts and the print stock, vinyl, causes the correct degree symbol to fill in, but of course your correct.

[scottie]

Try this as you type press ALT then enter the ascii code for the symbol you want.
Here is a list. You hold down the ALT key while entering the Ascii code then let go of the ALT key (you must use the numeric key pad). For a bullet its ALT- 0149 -ALT.

Here's a list...
Windows - Alt Key Numeric Codes
This page list codes for accented letters and other characters. In order to use these codes, your computer should have a separate numeric keypad on the right.
The list is organized by type. These tables show select codes only, not all possible codes.
Other Punctuation
These incude copyright symbols and special section marks.
SYMBOL NAME CODE NUMBER
© Copyright symbol 0169
® Registered symbol 0174
™ Trademark 0153
• List Dot 0149
§ Section Symbol 0167
– en-dash 0150
— em-dash 0151
¶ Paragraph Symbol 0182

Letters with Accents
This list is organized by Accent type. To determine the appropriate numeric code, match the accent with the vowel.
Accent A E I O U Y
Grave (Cap) À 0192 È 0200 Ì 0204 Ò 0210 Ù0217
Grave (Lower) à 0224 è 0232 ì 0236 ò 0242 ù 0249
Acute (Cap) Á 0193 É 0201 Í 0205 Ó 0211 Ú0218 ˇ 0221
Acute (Lower) á 0225 é 0233 í 0237 ó 0243 ú 0250 ˝ 0253
Circumflex (Cap) Â 0194 Ê 0202 Î 0206 Ô 0212 Û0219
Circumflex (Lower) â 0226 ê 0234 î 0238 ô 0244 û 0251
Tilde (Cap) Ã 0195 -- Ñ 0209 Õ 0213 --
Tilde (Lower) ã 0227 -- ñ 0241 õ 0245 --
Umlaut (Cap) Ä 0196 Ë 0203 Ï 0207 Ö 0214 Ü0220 Ÿ0159
Umlaut (Lower) ä 0228 ë 0235 ï 0239 ö 0246 ü 0252 ÿ 0255
Example: To input the acute a á (0225), hold down the ALT key, type 0225 on the numeric keypad, then release the ALT key.


Other Foreign Characters
These include special punctuation and unique consonant and vowel symbols.
SYMBOL NAME CODE NUMBER
¡ Upside-down exclamation mark 0161
¿ Upside-down question mark 0191
Ç, ç French C cedille (caps/lowecase) 0199 0231
Œ,œ O-E ligature (caps/lowecase) 0140 0156
ß German Sharp/Double S 0223
Ø,ø Nordic O slash (caps/lowecase) 0216 0248
Å,å Nordic A ring (caps/lowecase), Angstrom sign 0197 0229
Æ, æ A-E ligature (caps/lowecase) 0198 0230
fi, ˛ Icelandic/Old English Thorn (caps/lowecase) 0222 0254
˙,  Icelandic/Old English Eth (caps/lowecase) 0208 0240
« » Spanish/French quotation marks 0187 0171

Currency Symbols
SYMBOL NAME CODE NUMBER
¢ Cent sign 0162
£ British Pound 0163
€ Euro currency 0128
¥ Japanese Yen 0165
ƒ Dutch Florin 0131
∞ Generic currency symbol 0164

Math Symbols
SYMBOL NAME CODE NUMBER
÷ Division sign 0247
° Degree symbol 0176
¬ Not symbol 0172
± Plus/minus 0177
µ Micro 0181



Using the Codes
Windows assigns a numeric code to different accented letters, other foreign characters and special mathematical symbols. For instance the code for lower case á is 0225, and the code for capital Á is 0193. The ALT key input is used to manually insert these letters and symbols by calling the numeric code assigned to them.
To use the codes:
Place your cursor in the location where you wish to insert a special character.
Activate the numeric key pad on the right of the keyboard by pressing Num Lock (upper right of keyboard). The Num Lock light on the keyboard will indicate that the numeric key pad is on.

NOTE: You must use the numeric key pad; if you use the number keys on the top of the keyboard, the characters will not appear. If you are on a laptop or computer without a separate numeric keypad one of the other methods is recommended.
While pressing down the ALT key, type the four-digit code on the numeric key pad at the right edge of the keyboard. The codes are "case sensitive." For instance, the code for lower-case á is ALT+0225, but capital Á is ALT+0193.

NOTE: If you have the International keyboard activated you will only be able to input codes with the ALT key on the left side of the keyboard.
Release the ALT key. The character will appear when the ALT key is released.

NOTE: You must include the initial zero in the code. For example to insert á (0225) you must type ALT+0225, NOT ALT+225.

[The Repro Kid]

Wow!

If that's not a reason to buy a Mac, I don't know what else is!

I can remember how to type just about every symbol you listed on a Mac, but if i had to use all those codes I think I'd end up pulling all my hair out before even one work day was over.

Thanks for posting that, I'll think I'll save it. I've been asked for this information by PC people a few times.

[AdobeAce]

Try this as you type press ALT then enter the ascii code for the symbol you want.
Here is a list. You hold down the ALT key while entering the Ascii code then let go of the ALT key (you must use the numeric key pad). For a bullet its ALT- 0149 -ALT.

Here's a list...
Windows - Alt Key Numeric Codes
This page list codes for accented letters and other characters. In order to use these codes, your computer should have a separate numeric keypad on the right.
The list is organized by type. These tables show select codes only, not all possible codes.
Other Punctuation
These incude copyright symbols and special section marks.
SYMBOL NAME CODE NUMBER
© Copyright symbol 0169
® Registered symbol 0174
™ Trademark 0153
• List Dot 0149
§ Section Symbol 0167
– en-dash 0150
— em-dash 0151
¶ Paragraph Symbol 0182

Letters with Accents
This list is organized by Accent type. To determine the appropriate numeric code, match the accent with the vowel.
Accent A E I O U Y
Grave (Cap) À 0192 È 0200 Ì 0204 Ò 0210 Ù0217
Grave (Lower) à 0224 è 0232 ì 0236 ò 0242 ù 0249
Acute (Cap) Á 0193 É 0201 Í 0205 Ó 0211 Ú0218 ? 0221
Acute (Lower) á 0225 é 0233 í 0237 ó 0243 ú 0250 ? 0253
Circumflex (Cap) Â 0194 Ê 0202 Î 0206 Ô 0212 Û0219
Circumflex (Lower) â 0226 ê 0234 î 0238 ô 0244 û 0251
Tilde (Cap) Ã 0195 -- Ñ 0209 Õ 0213 --
Tilde (Lower) ã 0227 -- ñ 0241 õ 0245 --
Umlaut (Cap) Ä 0196 Ë 0203 Ï 0207 Ö 0214 Ü0220 Ÿ0159
Umlaut (Lower) ä 0228 ë 0235 ï 0239 ö 0246 ü 0252 ÿ 0255
Example: To input the acute a á (0225), hold down the ALT key, type 0225 on the numeric keypad, then release the ALT key.


Other Foreign Characters
These include special punctuation and unique consonant and vowel symbols.
SYMBOL NAME CODE NUMBER
¡ Upside-down exclamation mark 0161
¿ Upside-down question mark 0191
Ç, ç French C cedille (caps/lowecase) 0199 0231
Œ,œ O-E ligature (caps/lowecase) 0140 0156
ß German Sharp/Double S 0223
Ø,ø Nordic O slash (caps/lowecase) 0216 0248
Å,å Nordic A ring (caps/lowecase), Angstrom sign 0197 0229
Æ, æ A-E ligature (caps/lowecase) 0198 0230
?, ? Icelandic/Old English Thorn (caps/lowecase) 0222 0254
?, ? Icelandic/Old English Eth (caps/lowecase) 0208 0240
« » Spanish/French quotation marks 0187 0171

Currency Symbols
SYMBOL NAME CODE NUMBER
¢ Cent sign 0162
£ British Pound 0163
€ Euro currency 0128
¥ Japanese Yen 0165
ƒ Dutch Florin 0131
? Generic currency symbol 0164

Math Symbols
SYMBOL NAME CODE NUMBER
÷ Division sign 0247
° Degree symbol 0176
¬ Not symbol 0172
± Plus/minus 0177
µ Micro 0181



Using the Codes
Windows assigns a numeric code to different accented letters, other foreign characters and special mathematical symbols. For instance the code for lower case á is 0225, and the code for capital Á is 0193. The ALT key input is used to manually insert these letters and symbols by calling the numeric code assigned to them.
To use the codes:
Place your cursor in the location where you wish to insert a special character.
Activate the numeric key pad on the right of the keyboard by pressing Num Lock (upper right of keyboard). The Num Lock light on the keyboard will indicate that the numeric key pad is on.

NOTE: You must use the numeric key pad; if you use the number keys on the top of the keyboard, the characters will not appear. If you are on a laptop or computer without a separate numeric keypad one of the other methods is recommended.
While pressing down the ALT key, type the four-digit code on the numeric key pad at the right edge of the keyboard. The codes are "case sensitive." For instance, the code for lower-case á is ALT+0225, but capital Á is ALT+0193.

NOTE: If you have the International keyboard activated you will only be able to input codes with the ALT key on the left side of the keyboard.
Release the ALT key. The character will appear when the ALT key is released.

NOTE: You must include the initial zero in the code. For example to insert á (0225) you must type ALT+0225, NOT ALT+225.

How intuitive! You're kidding right? I'll stick with my Mac!

Ace

[scottie]

If you think the special character codes are fun... I remember using Lotus, (remember Lotus), Multimate, (a word processing package, pre WUSIWIG, pre mouse, pre color monitor, pre..... In order to print a compound equation you'd have to press ALT R then type (ex.) left paren pie ALT R r Alt R sup sqr right paren ALT R. All that to print (πr2). I say "print" because you wouldn't see the formula until it printed and that was a very simple example. When I would be typing a paper with hundreds of formuli, some the length of a line on a 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper, I would go home at the end of the day with tear stains on my shirt.

[Agirona]

Scottie,

I appreciate all of this information. I am going to make great use of it, especially since I am a newby in this field.

Thanks so much!:)

[Agirona]

Thanks so much Adobe Ace. This information is very valuable to me since I am a newby in the field.

I am so impressed with this forum and how everyone shares their knowledge with each other.

Again, Thank you.
:)

[AdobeAce]

Thanks so much Adobe Ace. This information is very valuable to me since I am a newby in the field.

I am so impressed with this forum and how everyone shares their knowledge with each other.

Again, Thank you.
:)

Hi Agirona,

I think you should be thanking Scottie.

Ace

[Agirona]

Hi Agirona,

I think you should be thanking Scottie.

Ace

As a matter of fact I did thank Scottie for his generous posting.

[loudstone]

:confused: Yeah, you could use the codes...



...or you could just use the Glyphs panel
Window > Type > Glyphs

I work with Spanish language yellow pages, so I use that a lot. I just scroll down to the section with all the accented characters I need, and leave the panel open. Simply double click a character to add it.

Slightly easier than memorizing all the codes. :D

[The Repro Kid]

Does windows or the windows version of illustrator have a glyphs palette? That's what Agirona is using.

I hate MacOsX's Character palette. Instead of allowing you to choose a particular font and then view all glyphs available, you have to choose a particular glyph and then view which fonts contain that glyph. Bass Ackwards!

On the other hand, Illustrator's glyphs palette is weak because it doesn't show you the key combo to achieve the glyph. You could work for years and not know that option-8 is a bullet. Give a man a fish and eats for one night, teach a man to fish and, well you know...

Nothing beats having a few small, specific, tools of the trade like character choosers and proportion scales etc., to help you get through your work day.

I'd be most impressed if some PC user could recommend a small efficient, professional, shareware, character chooser for use on the PC. Maybe they don't make them. It is, after all, a very Art-Specific tool.

[Terry Cheney]

Heh, heh......
You can always go Start/System Tools/Character Map for a list of the most popular ones.
I think Windows XP is okay now, but older versions of windows relied on you having to put an extra 0 at the front....i.e. Alt 0147 (Alt 00147 - this was a long time ago)
Don't forget to use the numerical number pad at the right of your keyboard for this purpose.
And you stick with your PC. ;o)))))
Tel

[Terry Cheney]

Hmmmmm.....
Think that should have read Stsrt/Accessories/System Tools/Character Map - sorry
Tel

[akparry76]

Design your text in InDesign and then copy and paste the object into Illustrator. Any styles you apply in InDesign will be retained in Illustrator. I had the same problem myself, found this forum searching Google and then figured it out.

[Lukas Engqvist]

In inDesign all those tricky glyphs can be saved in glyphsets, that is really cool for when you dont remember which phone was the best, Wingding carta or dingbats?
But nice that they have at least the basic glyphs. The problem with keyboard input is that it is the hoast OS that gives the input, there are lots of ways to get different keyboard layouts in Windows, so it's not an Adobe issue.

Lukas

[The Repro Kid]

Yes it's definitely a Windows thing, It's easy to memorize them on a Mac. I prefer to use dedicated utility software, like in the screenshot below, I find them far more useful than the any of the glyph palettes from mac or windows or Adobe. Honestly, I just don't get the Glyph Palettes.

[kialua]

Ok I'll admit to finding my glyphs half by memory and half by just throwing open another document and hitting Option and then just play the keyboard like a quick piano slam, find the the one I want copy and paste it into the document. Heck sometimes I don't even open a new document but just slam the keys with the option right in the document I am working on and erase the losers and keep the winner. It only takes me a minute.

That windows chart for glyphs is a hoot! :rolleyes:

[Crutch]

I don't know if someone already said this, but I use alt+(7 on number keypad) and get bullets this way. Of course the font has to have the bullet, but this works the same for me in both Illustrator and Photoshop.

[The Repro Kid]

Boy, I'm not a PC user, but my curiosity is driving me nuts. In every thread that mentions how to access extended characters on a PC, I ask the same question: Are there any Simple Character Choosing utility applications available for PC, as there are on Mac?

And no one has ever come up with "the goods." On a mac, simple character chooser utilities, shareware and freeware, are a dime a dozen. But ask if any exist for PC and "the room" goes silent.

I've good a mind to learn RealBasic so I can write a character chooser utility for PC. there's obviously a market for one :o